The last couple of days I’ve been thinking a lot about representation and what I mean when I talk about it, what others mean, what different types there are, and how maybe some of the arguments we’re having are because we’re not really working with the same assumptions based on vocabulary.
I’ve gotten this question a few times over the course of running this blog, and I’ve never been quite sure how to answer appropriately. To me, and to a great many others, the chemistry between the actors is palpable, but I don’t want to try to convince you to see something you just don’t see, or to ship something that’s just not your cup of tea. To each his own, right?
But I guess I will attempt to at least help you understand what exactly the appeal is to everyone who does both see it and like it. Why is the “Sterek” ship so damn popular? What has people gravitating in droves towards this particular pairing? Why (as of writing this post) of the 13,863 Teen Wolf stories on AO3 are 9,433 of them tagged as featuring Stiles/Derek (68% of the total), which is more than five times the amount of stories that feature the next most popular pairing (Scott/Allison)?
I’m going to try to explain from a narrative standpoint rather than a shipping one, so that hopefully the reasoning will seem a little more relatable and clearcut instead of solely subjective. It’s extremely easy for shippers to get caught up in their passion for a pairing, especially when that pairing is so immensely popular as to create a lot of unintentional vicious cycles among fandom rhetoric. So my goal is to present a few of the more objective theories about Sterek as a way of clarifying for anyone who might not “get it.”
(Reblog this to help them win the 2013 TV ChampionShips… The pairing with the most notes wins!)
So look, before we barely had ten reblogs the Dean/Castiel people had 700+ reblogs, and I don’t even know about the other pairings. But you know what, I don’t really care too much,…
When I first started watching Teen Wolf I wasn’t looking for love. The most I was hoping for was some queer-friendly genre TV (which, okay, is actuall asking for A LOT, but I knew about Danny) to kill a few hours and distract myself from the dark thunder clouds that were my life at the time.
I’d read a few fics about Derek and Stiles, long ones because those tend to be self-explanatory enough to be able to read without canon knowledge, and I didn’t really connect with fic!Sterek.
I figured it was one of those fandom things that happened more in the space between canon and the audience than on the actual show, and that’s fine! It just wasn’t really for me. But boy was I wrong about that.
When I watched the show, two things happened: I fell deeply in love with the entire cast and the writing - it wasn’t as punny and meta as Whedon, but I recognized the kind of style that I loved, the deep but subtle character work that I prefer, and who really cares if they can count how many days are between two full moons? I loved pretty much all the choices they made in framing and editing, as well, and part of me can even appreciate that Night School is a great genre hommage, EVEN WHILE I HATE IT WITH THE FURY OF A THOUSAND KANIMAS. Uhm.
But what really got to me was that I thought “OMG fandom was right this time, Derek and Stiles are totally meant to be a couple. OMG I AM WATCHING GAY BENEDICK/BEATRICE BE STILL MY HEART” It wasn’t exactly a jump to conclusions, okay? Danny’s presence and the way everything about him was handled clearly indicated they were comfortable with queer narratives, so why the hell would I think anything different?
By 2x04 I still thought this was definitely something the TW team were planning to do. So when Jeff was like “wait, what?” on twitter and then basically challenged us to persuade him, that’s when I really started getting into the whole meta thing. When I started to think about how to sell this to other people - I had already been sold on it by the show itself, but how could we possibly reverse that and show them what they’d created? How could we make them WANT it?
So that’s how I stumbled into tumblr fandom, how I asked Qhuinn to join the campaign, and how I ended up writing probably about a novel’s worth of meta on the show and the pairing at this point.
I wouldn’t trade the Teen Wolf fandom for anything. And Sterek is why I stayed. Why I fell in love. Why come August I will meet a bunch of fans all over the world to talk about queer werewolves all day long.
I call it the Ultimate Derek/Stiles Essay of Doom and there is good reason for that. My doom. I think I went mad around the time I had to watch Night School again and again.
There are pictures and videos and a lot of words. OMFG a lot of words. Please bear with me, by season 2 I started to see things.
I put this in the comments section at AfterElton, but I’m also putting it here because I think it’s something we as a fandom could have an interesting discussion about.
The AfterElton question asking if more Danny screen time would offset our desire for more Sterek subtext niggled at me last night and I finally realized why, and it’s three-fold (and I mean no disrespect to the writer):
1) It was asked in a very leading way - out gay character vs subtext aka visibility to all vs invisibility to non-slash fans. This is problematic unless you have an answer you want. These are called “push” questions and politicians use them all the time to not actually ask the question but to push the the preferred answer into the minds of voters. It’s why I felt guilty saying that emotionally I prefer sterek.
2) It’s also a misleading question in that it asks about getting more of a character vs more of 2 characters interacting in a (subtextual) relationship, those are such very different things that it’s akin to asking someone if they prefer apples or bread, or maybe the better comparison is asking if someone likes Cary Grant or banter films like His Girl Friday, some of which Grant was in but many he wasn’t. The question does not compute because they are too different to be comparable. I like Danny as a character but have no idea whether I will like his relationships - sexual or otherwise - with any of the other characters, whereas I already know I like the relationship between Stiles and Derek. There is no guess work. And ultimately I watch what little TV I have time for because I do like relationships over individual characters. Sometimes I love both but rarely do I watch for individual characters. I loved X-Files for Mulder&Scully’s dynamic, I love Doctor Who but was especially fannish about it with 10 and Rose (romantically) and 10 and Donna (friendship). I love shows for the chemistry between characters, whether I ship them romantically or otherwise (on Teen Wolf, for example, I adore the Scott&Stiles friendship as well as wanting a Stiles&Derek romantic relationship). So to me and other “shippers”, asking about Danny (an individual) vs Sterek (a relationship) simply doesn’t compute.
3) Finally, I’m bothered by the default assumption that suggests that so long as Sterek fans get a gay relationship with Danny, we would be satisfied by that. I don’t like this for 2 reasons.
3a) It places Danny’s sexuality as the primary component of his character, which is something Teen Wolf did an excellent job NOT doing in previous seasons. He was gay, but he was also a jock, somehow Jackson’s friend, a hacker, etc. His sexuality was only relevant to showing people that sexuality WASN’T important in the Teen Wolf world. So it feels like a backward step to suddenly sound as if it’s the main reason he’s getting more air time.
3b) It’s disrespectful to fans who ship Sterek not because it’s a gay relationship but because the character dynamic and chemistry spark off the screen. It’s basically saying that Sterek fans are really simply fans of m/m relationships and whatever m/m relationship is shown will be enough to grab our attention. And that’s simply not the case, at least for me and many other fans I know. Possibly Danny and his boyfriend will have wild chemistry and Sterek fans will love that relationship as well, but that doesn’t somehow negate the spark we see between Stiles&Derek either. And certainly without seeing Danny’s relationship there’s no way to know, so asking now is again akin to saying so long as we get gay sex that’s all we care about. That’s disrespectful to us.
Honestly the more I considered the initial question the more I was bothered by the question itself and all its implications.
I’m also bothered by it because I know Jeff Davis used to read AfterElton, certainly anything Teen Wolf related and it makes me nervous that he might get the impression that more Danny obviates our desire for canon Sterek. I don’t want to send him that message. Do you?
I agree with pretty much everything here.
This is not a zero-sum game. There is space for more than one type of LGBT representation. We can have Danny, who is more of a personal identity representation character, and we can have Sterek, which furthers the cause of having queer main characters in interesting relationships. It’s okay to want both, and it’s okay to have that little scale in your head that may be tipped to one side or the other, IF it were an actual choice between more Danny or Sterek moments.
The question was phrased in such a way to insinuate that of course Sterek isn’t and won’t be canon, that all we can hope for them is more subtext and that supporting and wanting more of that is buying into queerbaiting - and that assumption is not entirely wrong. It does, however, completely ignore the fact that so many of us really do want Sterek to be a canonical romance and that we may not be satisfied with the subtextual status quo all on our own, no Danny addendum required.
More than that, the question assumes that Sterek is the part that would have to be cut down. Which is, again, a false assumption. Jackson’s gone, so any time he would have spent with other characters is free to use. Allison and Scott are broken up, so perhaps they are going to get less couple screen time for now. Maybe they cut lacrosse or some of their scenic running through the woods shots.
Pitting Danny and Sterek against each other like that is either done to stir up shit or out of a mistaken assumption that Teen Wolf can only have a set number of ~queerness~ moments. Teen Wolf’s better than that, I assure you, so why aren’t we?
oh my god COMPANION PIECE TIME. much like my derek guide, all of this comes from a place of MY PREFERENCE and the things that I’VE noticed (and drawn conclusions from) within the series. it’s not something anyone has to take as LAW, but these are the things i look for in stiles in fic:
- stiles does not ramble
- stiles does not babble
- stiles is not exceptionally talkative
- HOWEVER, stiles does do an EXCEPTIONAL amount of silent communication with his face and body language. i am almost POSITIVE that the reason stiles comes off as talkative/rambling to some people is because he is buzzing with this restless energy ALL of the time. if you’re going to write stiles, write him SAYING important things (and the occasional one-liner for good, sarcastic humor) and channel more of your time into explaining the way his body moves and the way his face looks. you don’t have to do this in exhaustive detail, but stiles’s body language/facial expressions borders on cartoon character levels, and i think that’s why we have these misconceptions about how much he talks.
- stiles is actually kind of a jackass. he’s not sunshine and rainbows. he tends to taunt.
- this is important to me: stiles is EXTREMELY self-aware. he knows who he is; he knows who he cares about; he knows what he enjoys doing. stiles does NOT spend his time and energy trying to get popular. up to this point in the story, stiles has shown NO interest in changing himself. this becomes MOST clear when stiles rejects the bite from peter. he doesn’t want to CHANGE to meet other people’s standards. he wants who he is to be enough to impress (and he thinks it should).
- on that note, stiles has shown literally zero insecurities about the way he looks/the way his body is. i don’t really buy stories in which “why would so-and-so want to be with me when i look this way sob sob” is stiles’s mentality.
- re: stiles lying: stiles is really big on technicalities. 99% of the time, stiles will tell lies of omission or lies of deflection or lies of not saying anything at all. it is EXTRAORDINARILY rare that stiles will straight up lie. he does this MOST NOTABLY to his dad when he says that they were taking danny out clubbing, but he ONLY does that when his dad pushes him into a corner when stiles tries, first, to deflect/joke his way around the issue. flat-out lying is a LAST resort for stiles.
- stiles has his secrets (ones he even keeps from scott). these things tend to be family related and mom related. he didn’t tell scott that his dad got fired during raving; scott didn’t know about stiles’s panic attacks until lunatic.
- i think more people need to realize that we know NOTHING about stiles’s past. we don’t know when stiles’s mom died; we don’t know HOW stiles’s mom died; we don’t know when he met scott; we don’t know what made him fall in love with lydia; we don’t know when his dad became sheriff; we don’t know how exactly he knew who derek hale was. there are no canonical FACTS about stiles’s past yet other than the fact that, yes, his mother DID die (and she died SLOWLY), stiles in some way feels guilty for her death, and stiles had panic attacks in the aftermath of her death.
- stiles loves his father more than he loves anyone. scott gets bit and stiles is like COOL WEREWOLVES SON. lydia gets bit and stiles is like UH THIS IS TERRIFYING KILL ME but then he’s back on his feet and kicking ass a minute later. stiles’s dad gets knocked out by a human with a gun, though, and stiles is ready to tap the fuck out. his dad coming close to mortality is what forces stiles to come close to his own mortality. stiles’s relationship to his father is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT relationship to him— beyond even scott.
- stiles and his dad have a very common single-parent-to-child relationship. stiles feels like it’s his job to make his dad happy and proud (and feels like he can’t live up to that sometimes) while his dad feels like it’s HIS job to make sure he’s raising his son right (and he’s going to feel like he sucks at that a lot and he’s going to spend a lot of time wishing his wife were still around to help). but stiles’s dad still makes sure to go to his lacrosse games, and stiles refuses to put his dad in danger even at the potential cost of his and his friends’ life (night school).
- on that note, stiles and his dad treat the death of mama stilinski as a fresh wound. a lot of people assume cancer was her death and that it happened when stiles was younger, but the way stiles and his dad interact in terms of her death… it still looks like a fresh wound. it shocks stiles to hear his dad bring her up (and his dad only does it when he’s very, very drunk); the sheriff still wears his wedding ring. yes, it’s possible that they could have gone YEARS without talking about her death, but the way they treat her death is actually much more common of a more recent death. it’s like they’re still in the stages of grieving for it. consider this when making up stiles’s backstory.
- stiles is intelligent. he has at least an above-C average in all of his classes because we know he didn’t have to go to parent/teacher night. he gets an essay back with an A written on it. but we also know that stiles doesn’t take advantage of his intellect/doesn’t apply himself like at all. it seems incredibly likely that stiles is the sort of person to want to cut corners where he can when working on boring stuff BUT he will also be the sort of person who will ABSOLUTELY go all-out for the information that interests him (werewolves). i also think that stiles stores away information quickly and efficiently because he could remember and document the entire history of the male circumcision, and that sounds like a LOT of information to just sort of have lying around in your head.
- stiles is SUPER intuitive. this is most obvious when he dislikes matt all through season two.
- stiles is NOT some sort of emotional guru. he doesn’t always know the right thing to say and he’s ABSOLUTELY a stereotypical teenage boy in a lot of ways (including jacking off multiple times a day). when he goes to comfort lydia, his go-to compliments tend to be “i think you’re beautiful.”
- he doesn’t have a lot of experience with girls, BUT we have evidence that people (erica, for one) have been interested in stiles in the past. when you write stiles, consider the likelihood that LOTS of people have had crushes on him, but stiles’s eyes have ONLY been on lydia since third grade, so he didn’t notice or care.
- stiles loves the word (and variations of the word) “ass.” dumbass, jackass, wolfass— he loves that shit.
- stiles also rocks the words “dude” and “man.”
- stiles wears a LOT of plaid if you want random details to add to your story
- STILES IS A SIXTEEN YEAR OLD BOY WHO BASICALLY THINKS WEREWOLVES ARE REALLY COOL AND AWESOME AND EXCITING. don’t forget this!!! stiles mentions in the first episode that “nothing ever happens in this town,” and he later suggests that scott “revel in the awesomeness of being a freakin werewolf!” he OBVIOUSLY thinks werewolves are cool. when derek sucks the wolfsbane out of his system, stiles is like “THAT WAS AWESOME!!!” and when he sees derek’s eyes in the mugshot, he says “nice.” stiles is constantly impressed by the cool shit werewolves can do. he’s appreciative of the change in erica. he seems a LOT more amazed by werewolves than scott (who is pretty much apathetic/”this is my life now sigh” about it) is. stiles doesn’t think werewolves are abominations.
- stiles is TYPICALLY the planmaster. he’s the person who is always like “okay scott, i have a plan.” this is SUPER crucial to the stiles/derek dynamic!!! stiles and derek tend to come up with plans, and where derek’s plans tend to fail, stiles’s don’t. stiles and derek BOTH are ALWAYS competing to be a brother/mentor figure in scott’s life. you could make the argument that stiles doesn’t want derek to replace him in scott’s world if you wanted to! derek and stiles are natural competitors— they both want to be scott’s “yoda.” but scott trusts stiles!
- stiles is, like derek, very pragmatic. he gives up going to the lacrosse game in wolf’s bane in favor of going to the hospital with derek. he later suggests that they kill jackson NOT because he’s “dark,” but because stiles sees that jackson is KILLING TONS OF PEOPLE. he suggests the idea because it IS an option. he suggests the idea because stiles sees all of the possibilities in the situation, and the FASTEST solution very well might be killing jackson. but when the idea is vetoed, stiles rolls with it and turns around and feeds jackson.
- bonus sterek tip: stiles figured out that a.) that derek took scott’s phone and b.) that derek took scott’s phone for a REASON and c.) that kate argent was responsible for the hale fire ALL IN THE COURSE OF LIKE AN EPISODE. this is hugely important for understanding that STILES IS A PUZZLE SOLVER and also for understanding that STILES KNOWS HOW DEREK THINKS.
- stiles has an understanding of social norms and the way things work. he goes to parties, he drinks underage, and he offers dating advice to scott. he also seems to have an investment in scott’s happiness and supports the scott/allison relationship EVEN THOUGH he acknowledges that his role in scott’s life has changed a bit since they started dating. stiles seems to understand that, eventually, friends move on and they can STAY BEST FRIENDS even if the terms of their relationship get redefined. this is likely because he expects to be in a relationship himself one day AND he’s probably confident that he’s scott’s best friend. now, if his role as best friend/mentor gets challenged, he starts to react to that.
- there’s no canonical evidence for stiles cooking or cleaning. his room has been shown to be messy (his desk very messy). the extent of his “dad you should be healthy” is buying salads from the grocery store and not letting him get curly fries. he cares about his dad’s health, yes, but it’s more of a passive treatment than an active treatment? stiles doesn’t cook in canon. he just doesn’t? you can write him as cooking, but don’t assume it’s got canon support.
- stiles’s crush on lydia is a LONG-standing crush. he has been watching her for a long time. he knows she’s smart; he knows she’s beautiful. he also does not act ENTITLED to her affection. if anything, he expects her to walk over him. he hopes she’ll acknowledge him, but he does not try to change himself to appeal to her.
- stiles can be preoccupied by the idea of sex.
- stiles’s reckless bravery is a CORNERSTONE to his role in the show. he was the guy who, when a werewolf was RIGHT NEXT TO HIM, chose to run outside and put himself in the way of an alpha werewolf just to get a pair of pliers in night school. stiles is remarkable because he kind of keeps getting his ass kicked, but he just keeps coming back.
- stiles is, like derek, not a particularly NICE person, but he IS a good person. stiles has a hero’s arc of his own— just like scott and derek. his story thus far has shown itself to be one of accepting that he, just as he is, has his own strength. stiles has to accept that and embrace that— it’s a story of confidence. stiles is remarkable in that he is NOT remarkable outside of the set of talents/character traits that he, the “everyman” already has.
99% of the time, i don’t take well to rambling stiles/pack mom stiles because stiles is a guy. he’s snarky and he argues and he ABSOLUTELY will not hesitate to throw a punch. i SERIOUSLY reject people who go out of their way to give stiles traditionally feminine qualities (cooking, being an emotional guru, being pack mom) because there’s ZERO canonical evidence that he is or does any of this shit. i feel like, when people make stiles more “traditionally feminine” it’s an attempt to project themselves onto the stiles/derek dynamic. it’d be bad in regular circumstances, but it’s obnoxious because these days it’s a straight up trope.
i could literally extend this list for days and days and days, but i hope that what i’ve come up with here is something that’s… at least a little helpful for the time being. it’s not anywhere near a complete list, because stiles is super complex (i can’t say i’ve ever come across a stiles outside of the actual show that made me go DAMN THIS IS EXACTLY THE STILES I SEE IN CANON? not even my own interpretations really match up.)
and again: this list isn’t meant to be taken as the freaking bible. they’re just my preferences (pulled from canonical evidence).
um i’m not an expert, but i can tell you MY preferences for the way that people characterize/write derek hale? these by no means should be taken as gospel or anything like that, but these are the things that i really do consider when reading fanfiction and deciding if i’m enjoying it or not:
- derek uses contractions
- derek has a really dry sense of humor
- sometimes he argues/fights back like a child (“and derek doesn’t care” in raving)
- derek doesn’t “growl”
- derek is THE MOST in control werewolf of the bunch; the ONLY time he’s ever lost control was in 1x04 (magic bullet) when he was dying. and, even then? he let his claws out to scratch jackson and then his eyes flashed and that was it. so don’t throw around “his eyes got red” and “his claws came out” just because he’s frustrated. derek hale took chris argent’s “but that’s something you don’t have much of these days” line without so much as a single wolfey hair popping out; i seriously doubt stiles being petulant is going to make his eyes flash if being tormented with the BURNING ALIVE OF ALL OF HIS LOVED ONES doesn’t do that????
- bonus sterek tip: derek hasn’t been physically aggressive with stiles since wolf’s bane when he pushed him against a wall (ONCE) and slammed his head against the steering wheel (ONCE, and this was a hobrien improv— not something written into derek’s character!). their relationship has progressed past physical aggression. bonus bonus sterek tip: we never actually had evidence that derek broke into stiles’s room via the window; that might not be how he rolls for all we know.
- derek keeps his cards to his chest. there will never be a time when he just… tells everyone what the plan is/what he’s doing/what something means? he tends to wait ‘til the last POSSIBLE moment before revealing anything at all.
- derek’s focus is survival; he’s prone to rushing into things because of this.
- derek’s not a good leader (yet). derek does not command respect (yet). jeff davis has said that scott’s journey is to become an alpha himself, so i don’t really buy it when derek is scott’s alpha in any fic that has been written since s2 was aired? scott and derek can be allies, but derek is not ranked above scott.
- bonus sterek tip redux: the only reason stiles and derek ever started interacting was because of scott. scott is the glue that holds any sterek fic together. scott is the common denominator between stiles and derek.
- derek does NOT see scott as beneath him; even if he thinks scott doesn’t make WISE choices, derek thinks of scott as his brother. derek is arguably most emotionally invested in scott as far as the characters of teen wolf go? he gave up the chance to trap the kanima TO GO SAVE SCOTT. he told deaton “thank you” for SAVING scott. the relationship of derek and scott is MORE IMPORTANT TO DEREK THAN IT IS TO SCOTT. if you’re writing derek’s point of view, don’t sweep scott under the rug. derek and scott are two sides of the same coin: pragmatism in the form of derek and compassion in the form of scott.
- derek is sassy; he has a dry sense of humor. he is NOT emotionless. he also knows what a joke is.
- derek does not speak “properly”? he is not as familiar as stiles and scott are, maybe, but he is YOUNG. derek’s also kind of a douche; he’s not some “holier than tho, tired of your bs, let me sit over here in brooding silence” type. he will argue childishly, he rolls his eyes, he can be downright MEAN sometimes if he thinks being mean will get his point across. he can mockingly laugh, and he can say things like “who said i was going to do it?” in some playful/sweet voice that is actually VERY DANGEROUS (venemous).
- DEREK’S ONLY SOURCE OF COMPETENCE IS HIS BODY/HIS CONTROL. he is not a great leader yet; he’s not honest and he doesn’t trust, and he— frankly— kind of sucks at the whole alpha thing. BUT derek trusts his body. he trusts it enough to use it to get what he wants out of other people (see: flirting with erica and with cop at the desl). he keeps his body in perfect shape; works it like it’s a punishment. he is strong and he looks nice and he does that because in a way that’s all he has. derek uses his body like a machine, like a tool, like a way of getting what he wants.
- because of that, what scott did in the finale (making derek bite gerard) PROBABLY had inflicted serious angst if not trauma.
- derek knows how to use modern technology (see: can work jackson’s ipod in co-captain). derek owns a cell phone (see: talks to stiles on the cell phone in wolf’s bane).
- derek thinks the bite is a gift, BUT he is very, very aware of the damage that humans can inflict. derek is possibly the last person to think someone is weak JUST because they’re human. a human took away everything he ever loved; it doesn’t make any sense for him to think of humans as being HELPLESS.
- derek is extremely pragmatic. he will make choices based on what is the quickest solution to a problem.
- i cannot emphasis this enough: derek is a good guy. he may be the anti-hero, but he is not the antagonist. he and scott disagree on a LOT of things, but derek’s entire time spent in beacon hills has been dedicated to trying to stop the murdering of innocent people. derek saves scott’s life; derek saves melissa mccall and the sheriff’s life; derek will push people out of the way to save them. derek is a good guy, BUT HE IS NOT A NICE GUY. he is not a secret-ball-of-butter guy. he’s rough around the edges and he can be mean, but that doesn’t make him BAD.
- derek’s anchor is something like “pain” (as he tells scott in s1) and “anger” (as he tells isaac in s2). i tend to think that it might be a combo of the two (guilt imo), but you can take from that what you will.
- derek does an awful lot of silent communication
- whether or not you ship sterek, derek’s wittier side comes out most often in stiles’s presence. (think about the little sneer he gives stiles in 2x02 before he goes into the police station.)
- derek seems to have given boyd a level of respect he didn’t give erica and isaac.
- derek let boyd and erica leave when they wanted to
- derek has only made his betas submit ONCE and that was when isaac was about to go after stiles in the police station
- he really really didn’t look like he wanted to hurt his betas in party guessed when he fought them, but he did it anyway because he knew it was the right thing to do (note: he didn’t try and make them submit then, either)
- derek has never done what peter did when peter MADE scott try and kill his friends in night school
- derek obviously cares about his betas; he’s just not excellent at being compassionate. he says “it’s about power” in ice pick, but there’s CLEARLY a family that derek is trying to build. THAT’S why he called scott his brother and that’s why derek is so upset when boyd and erica leave them. he’s not compassionate or trusting yet, but derek did what he thought was best to help his pack learn to survive/learn to be as strong as him.
- sometimes derek thinks violence is the answer.
- actually he thinks that a lot.
on a final note, i am EXTREMELY turned off by fanfictions that choose to make derek into a humanized wolf? we have no evidence within the canon that scentmarking means anything to the werewolves. we also have BOUNTIFUL evidence that the werewolves can turn their were!senses on and off like they have a switch inside of their heads. i also feel like people should be very, very careful when they come up with their own theories about the differences between born werewolves and bitten werewolves because we actually don’t have ANYTHING to go on in that area.
i think sometimes people will characterize derek in a way that IS NOT in line with the way werewolves are characterized in the show, and they’ll use “well he’s a born werewolf so it’s different!” as a plot device there. and that’s OKAY, it’s FINE. but i think people need to be more aware of the fact that…. we’ve all seen that done before. if you’re going to tweak the teen wolf mythology (or make assumptions of the teen wolf mythology), then you better commit and make it AWESOME. don’t pass it off as a side detail, because it feels concocted just for plot development at that point.
ALSO IF YOU FEED ME “DEREK HAS TO TOP BECAUSE HE’S THE ALPHA” I WILL CLAW YOUR EYES OUT?????????
idk i really want to emphasize that i’m no expert on teen wolf; i’m not a writer of the show. but as someone who reads a LOT of fanfiction, these are things that i find myself wanting to message people about pretty frequently (i don’t because that would be a dick move).
obviously, everyone’s welcome to make their own interpretations about the show and about derek. i have made this list as a representation of the things that I PREFER when reading derek in fanfictions— nothing more. you’re absolutely welcome to disregard everything i’ve said here if it doesn’t line up with your interpretation.
hopefully some of this was helpful, though!
So we all know that Stiles sometimes gets a little too excited by some of the more gruesome things they’ve seen over the course of the show (“That’s the best part… they only found half…!”). And he’s sometimes a little too okay with violence, and killing. You can probably attribute that, at least in part, just to his being the Sheriff’s son, but what if there’s more to it?
What if it was a coping mechanism?
Curious, this is a really difficult question to answer, because people are very wary when it comes to the issue of domestic abuse and the sexualization of violence and with good reason. These are hard waters to navigate and if I mess up, I want people to talk to me about it. I want to be careful here because if I accidentally downplay the seriousness of domestic abuse or reinforce the culture of silence, that’s just not worth it.
Hey folks, it’s that time again. I want to talk to you about Derek and Stiles. This post is largely a response to several opinions and questions I see popping up about this ship periodically and it’s probably not comprehensive, but it is hearfelt.